Posted by: apuna on: February 23, 2010
Statutory warning:- Content written below is purely imaginative and speculative. Anyone who knows about me, know that I am a science fiction fan and would always love to live mostly in the near future rather than the Present
. So, the opinions expressed below are hypothetical and imaginary. They don’t exist immediately, they may not exist ever or may happen after thousands/millions of years.. Read on.
I saw below comment while watching one of the videos on You Tube, (Khamma, Kapu, Reddy, Raju etc are the castes in Andhra Pradesh, India) and it got me thinking, so down below is what I have to say in reply to the comment.
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LogicEmotionTruth (1 week ago)
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Only when caste-system ends in India,
Only when there is one religion and one God,
Only when the people unite and have one language…
Only when politicians end and one single able and just ruler come….
Till then There is no salvation for our country.
Else we will be fighting forever whatever be our education,
as…Khamma,Kapu,Reddy,Raju,etc–FOREVER…Even God will not side us….
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@LogicEmotionTruth Thank god, at least there are people like you, with logic and reason still among us. I appreciate your thinking “LogicEmotionTruth”, and I can understand where your words have come from.. I can understand that they have come from your deep concern for our society today and your desperate want to put an end to most of the rubbish differences between us today, and may be to visualize an idealistic society. I cannot agree more with you on the caste-system in India, it is a great abomination for any society. Although I have more to add and to differ on other aspects of your comment..
You see any idealistic society such as the one above you want for us, will not remain stable for longtime, because the inherent psyche of human beings is to upset the current nature of the things, i.e we cannot just be peaceful forever, incidentally after a period of time, the anomalies will arise in different people and would again result in chaos. And I believe Chaos or a slight Balance in between Chaos is the only true form of existence that we human beings are capable of. Also, any society that is truly content, and happy in all of its needs would rapidly degenerate and disintegrate and would die off soon, because a Content Society will not have any more necessity or drive to think beyond and develop/improve. So, real Salvation for human race i think would only result or would only occur when our species ends.
There is one more point that I greatly differ with you, that is about GOD. When you say, ” Only when there is one religion and one God “, which religion you want everyone to follow
? and which God you want to be The God of all ? If you say Hindu or Ram, then other religion people wont quite agree with you. Same thing if you say Christian/Muslim or Jesus/Allah, other religions or Hindu’s wont agree with you. So, you see your statement can never be true. As a solution for that, I would like to think of a State/System where religion and God are reduced to minuscule importance and have become more of a private affair than a public affair. Let me elaborate on this.
I did consider the other option of a System having no religion and no God (which Personally is my favorite and my first choice for our future generations), but that may not do much good, since the fear instilled by the god figure in the minds of those who are willing to hurt others for their own good or Fear of god to do the right thing in humans, Combined with the Sense of Contentment in life that Religion would provide, weighs far more greater than the Temporary peace established in a System/State where there is no God/ no Religion. And there is a chance that, Peace in Such a State may not last long, and would again result in religions fighting with each other for world domination or there is a larger chance of One religion actually acquiring dominance on the world this time, due to the absence of other religions in such a System.
So, rather than having no God/ no Religion, we should exactly have the Opposite!! I.e Have Numerous gods and Numerous religions, So many of them so that, no one even knows the actual count of them at once. I.e Have each person or family or group of persons one god or one religion, which is different from other person or families. This will take away the chance of any one or two major religions trying to fight for world domination (which is now happening between Christianity and Muslim). When each one of us have a different Religion, then no two can fight upon claiming that their religion is Greater or Their God is true means for Salvation. If two persons try to fight upon their religions/gods, then a third person with totally different religion/god would come up and argue with the other two, and the fourth one with totally different religion/god from other three will support his own beliefs, and so on everyone will differ from other which would reduce competition between the first two persons. In such a scenario, your god will be as much powerful as my god, and our gods will be as much powerful as our neighbors god, and when there are literally so many religions and gods that no body can even count of, then there wouldn’t be any competition between people about their religions. You see what I am trying to say is, Rather than trying to Erase the Effects of the Problem, we should try to Erase the Source of the Competition or the Problem itself. I am trying to visualize a society where the competition between gods/religions is diluted as much as it can be, such that no body would even find a purpose to argue any more about their God/religion. In such a Society/System, each individual has temple/church/masjid/or whatever he wants, built in his own home and will worship god in his home itself rather than going out, which would then make the God/Religion a Private Affair rather than a Public Affair. For example, if there are only 2 beverages, i.e COKE and PEPSI in the market, then they would always have major competition between them. But if there are hundreds and thousands of beverages as similar to COKE and PEPSI in quality and taste, then the competition between COKE and PEPSI itself, would reduce and die off soon. So, the solution is to Dilute the competition between Religions by inventing more Religions and more Gods, with the Vision of Making God/Religion Obsolete one day. Sounds Pretty Stupid, ye!:)
I believe that this is the only possible and imaginable solution for the problem not just India, but the entire world is facing right now.
May be others (like “LogicEmotionTruth” & people who are rational & tolerant towards other beings without having to Pray to God to bestow that power of thinking upon them!), have thought about the above choice already, or they may have considered the above option, but have discarded it thinking of the other imminent problems such a Society with N number of Gods and N number of Religions would Cause. If so, please post it in the comments, I would very much like to hear them. Thanks.
February 25, 2010 at 10:16 am
ha ha ah aha h…Siva,i really liked your new approach and the way you came up with a new solution..When i read the first part,some thought came up in my mind contradicting your words..Then whatever i thought in my mind came up in the next part as there can’t be no god/religion…
The Final one was the ultimate…really i liked it
Eventhough there are ‘N’ number of religions/caste…there might be something in the top position…which will always degrade people who are in low level….something in their mind will run they should not do such kind of jobs and all..
I can’t completely support the low level people also..Government is giving so much of privileges as they are in backward…So many people change their cader and utilize the benefits of being backward also…and nowdays a backward cader person can get many benefits than anyone can…
sorry it went away somewhere…anyway i don’t think so there will be any solution for this..we people will be always like this only…fighting for silly reasons and missing their own being…human life is sick
February 25, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Hey Thanks for the comment.
I also agree that, even though there are N number of religions, we may always have one or two major religions which constitute more number of population compared to others, and which will fight for the domination. I mean we are already having that scenario right now, as we do have so many religions and so many gods in different countries including ours, but majority of the world population are being either Christians or Muslims, we have tensions between them.
But as I said at the starting of the post, I am just being Speculative, and trying to imagine a What If scenarios.
What If, there is a society in future, where people do have their own religions, Practice their own Faith, without having been dragged into world wide unrest between any two religions. Or Better from such a Society, What If people totally drop the Idea of the Need for God/Religion from their minds itself. It may not happen after thousand years from now also. The Situation always gets worse from better.. Unless some of the people try changing it. Its a far fetched idea, but there are people who are trying to educate others, who have already done their part by spreading word about atheism. Search ” Richard Dawkins ” (who is a world famous Science Professor, and an Atheist) in Google or You Tube, you will find lot of interesting videos and information. Alternately, in the right hand pane of this page, under Blog roll section, there is a link to Richard Dawkins Site, and to a Rationalia Forum which is also useful.
Regarding Reservation System, it sometimes seems really Unfair, when people misuse it. It becomes Unfair, when true potential is not rewarded instead someone from a scheduled tribe/caste who is not even interested is given preference in the selections of most of the Entrance exams/ Jobs around the country. Reservation System is just the by-product of the Caste System, and the age long Discrimination that our fore-fathers or ancestors who belong to the Forward Castes has shown towards the Backward community by oppressing them based on their Caste !! Anyway, Thanks again Divya for taking time to comment.